April 10, 2025

Trust, Gratitude & Intuition: A Conversation with Annemarie Lord

Trust, Gratitude & Intuition: A Conversation with Annemarie Lord

What if surrendering control was the exact step your soul has been asking you to take? In this episode, I’m joined by Annemarie Lord—renowned psychic medium and author of The Grateful Three Approach to Life™—as she shares how leaving a 30-year nursing career opened the door to a purpose-led life guided by spirit. We explore: • How to recognise signs from spirit and trust your intuitive nudges • The neuroscience of gratitude and why it’s a spiritual superpower • Tools to move...

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Season 1

What if surrendering control was the exact step your soul has been asking you to take?

In this episode, I’m joined by Annemarie Lord—renowned psychic medium and author of The Grateful Three Approach to Life™—as she shares how leaving a 30-year nursing career opened the door to a purpose-led life guided by spirit.

We explore:
 • How to recognise signs from spirit and trust your intuitive nudges
 • The neuroscience of gratitude and why it’s a spiritual superpower
 • Tools to move through fear and doubt into confidence and clarity
 • The unexpected ways humour, authenticity—and even horses—can support healing

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00:00 - Guest Introduction

00:37 - Annemarie's Spiritual Journey

01:00 - The Power of Gratitude

01:35 - Starting the Conversation

02:31 - Annemarie's Early Experiences

05:27 - Embracing Mediumship

09:11 - Signs from Spirit

16:27 - Public Mediumship

21:28 - Personal Stories and Reflections

22:27 - Introduction to Siri Linley

24:20 - The Healing Power of Horses

26:03 - The Grateful Three Approach

27:26 - Understanding the RAS System

30:53 - F-**&( Buckets and Overcoming Fear

36:42 - Authenticity in Spiritual Practice

40:14 - Conclusion and Final Thoughts

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Welcome to Connecting To Spirit.

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I'm your host, Lisa Brandis, intuitive guide, teacher and founder of Intuitive Reiki International.

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In today's episode, I'm joined by the incredible Anne Marie Lord, a renowned psychic, medium intuitive coach, spiritual mentor.

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The international author of the transformational book, the Grateful 3 Approach to Life.

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She's known as the Motivational Medium.

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Annemarie has helped thousands around the world connect to spirit, find clarity, and live more empowered lives.

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In our conversation, Annemarie shares her powerful journey.

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From decades as a registered nurse to answering the call of her true spiritual path, we talk about the challenges that she overcame, the unforgettable moments of spirit communication, and how you can begin to recognize the signs that your guides are sending you.

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She also reveals how her signature gratitude practice can create powerful shifts in your life no matter where you are on your spiritual journey.

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Whether you are just starting to explore your intuitive gifts, or you are already walking a spiritual path.

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This episode is packed with inspiration, wisdom, and down to earth guidance you can apply in your daily life.

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So my friend, take a deep breath, open your heart, and let's dive into this soulful conversation with the one and only Anne Marie.

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Lord.

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Welcome Annemarie to Connecting to Spirit.

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I have been an admirer of yours for a long time.

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I think I first read your book, the Grateful Three Approach to Life, just as I was publishing mine and to actually have the printed copy.

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I'm so grateful I brought it on Kindle initially.

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Um.

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And loved it back then and just rereading it.

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I've been making little notes about all the amazing content in your book that I wanted to discuss with you.

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so firstly,

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Oh, thank you.

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to my podcast.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thanks for having me.

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It's an absolute pleasure.

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I'm so excited about this today.

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I know, it's amazing, isn't it?

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I feel like every time we speak, I feel like, you're a kindred soul, Annemarie, and there's a lot of similarities in our story that I think makes,

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Definitely,

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a, for an Easier connection.

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right, so I wanna begin at, start at the beginning.

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Anne-Marie, your story begins as a registered nurse and, you have a really grounded, steady career based in science.

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And one day something happened that helped you to realize your path was going to change in quite a big way.

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was there a moment or an experience or even perhaps a breakdown that cracked you open to the world of spirituality?

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I wouldn't say there was a moment, going through my life, like being a young child, I was always aware of something, you know, there's something different.

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I used to call it me, navy feel, and I'd feel it in my tummy.

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And I'd also see like, I call it energy spirals and my mom used to say like, oh no, that's your temperature.

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because I'd see these like energy spirals in the air.

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And now what I know them to be was spirit.

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I don't see them anymore.

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but going through nursing, I believe.

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That being connected to spirit and which I didn't really understand fully at the time, I felt that it helped me do my job and connect with people.

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On an even deeper level.

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but to answer your question, was there a defining moment?

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Not really.

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I feel like I was pushed outta the, the nursing closet a few times and I always went back in, you know, I run back into the nursing closet.

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Yeah.

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So what I know and, you know, we all fear judgment and for me it was, how can I say it?

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it was a very.

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respected role as a nurse, especially a palliative care nurse and a woman care specialist.

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So to come out and say, look, I actually see dead people, you know, and I know this sounds awful, but I actually felt like a lot of my hard work, what I'd worked for, and if you've read my book, it was a struggle to get where I was, would've been quashed.

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So I was terrified to do that.

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Yeah, a lot of my

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Yeah,

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the same way, quite often when we go deep, it's our own self-judgment, isn't it?

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That we have to face as well

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absolutely.

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to terms with, our own beliefs around spirituality or being psychic or what it means to be a psychic medium.

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When we can question that and follow that passion, because did you find it was like the connection and the passion to the spirit world was just something you couldn't step away from, no matter how many times you tried it, like just kept coming back and kept coming back and it's like

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Yeah.

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the shoulder.

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Yeah.

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it was like, you know, you are gonna do this, so just accept it.

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you

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you know, it was like, not ready yet, you know?

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can,

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it.

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I

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And trust me, I chose to go the hard way, you know, but it was like, hello, you ready today?

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No, not quite there yet.

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so they kept pushing and pushing.

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But one of the funny things was, I started doing readings for like friends and family and I used to say to them all the time, do not tell a soul what I can do.

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Do not tell a soul.

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they

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And they'd go, okay, we promise.

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Everyone, you know, absolutely everyone.

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And it was, it was like, oh, but she won't tell anyone either or he won't tell anyone either.

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And I was like, ah, okay.

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And then I decided to step out.

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you just have to, I was doing a radio interview and I was asked to channel spirit and one of the co-hosts, her mum's very religious, and she said to her, mum, don't watch today's episode.

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And I said to her,

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I.

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Of course that means she's, you know, it's gonna spark that curiosity.

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And she checked in afterwards and yes, she did watch it.

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So it's

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Yeah.

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I always think That whenever we feel a little bit scared about something or we feel nervous, it's because that is the path of our greatest joy because we care about that thing and we wanna do it well, and we wanna be the best that we can at that.

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And so the things that we are kind of like, eh, yeah.

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Uh, you know.

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hum about, they don't trigger us as much because it's not quite the path of our greatest joy.

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So I always think we have to wrestle with that kind of, know you speak about it in your book, just stepping outta that comfort zone

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Yeah.

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need encouragement, and I know you're great with, supporting your clients and the students that you're training also,

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Yeah.

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think that really plays a big part is, it's great support, great learning, great training, especially in this industry.

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You know, we have to have discernment as well to kind of be able to filter not only the messages that are coming through from spirit, but also, our own mind and our own beliefs as well.

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It's not an easy thing to do.

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No.

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Even though a lot of people are naturally intuitive, or natural medium mediumship skills, there's a lot more to it than, than just being able to, to connect with spirit.

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and that I found not the hardest thing, but.

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I think my nursing and helped the way I connected with people in really, hard situations.

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You know, with working in palliative care for 12 years, it's you, you meet a lot of people.

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Even though connecting, excuse me, with people through nursing, then working in palliative care takes it that step further and I think mediumship even takes it that step further away.

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So, so it all helps whatever it is that you do.

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It can help you.

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if you are a medium or if you are intuitive, it can help.

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rather than having to keep them separate, blend it together, and it will become your journey.

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what I've always done.

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And I teach my students that as well.

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Excuse me.

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when they're learning spiritual development and it's like, no, but you bring all of who you are to that situation

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right.

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I would imagine the work that you're doing that you would naturally attract people that perhaps have grief or, going through different stages of your life that you have yourself been through.

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we also can draw on our own life experience as a way show of how we've moved through some of the mess that we all experience in life.

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And then we become an inspiration to others

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Yeah.

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that can be very valuable.

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And yes, I know with mediumship and spirituality, it's not like the logic can just read something, practice it, rehearse it, know it, it's a very creative process that requires, A sensitivity, but also just practicing the skills.

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Connecting often with your spirit

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it takes time.

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And getting past the doubts

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Yeah.

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Because it, know, the

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Yeah.

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comes in through the imagination

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Yeah.

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it's quite a process.

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So, what's some of the most common signs from Spirit that you've been shown that perhaps people miss or some of the, signals or symbols that Spirit can communicate that can kind of help people know that their loved ones are around them?

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I had this in one of my live events.

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a young girl at the front, she put a hand up'cause I have, I do mediumship platform mediumship, but at the second half of the event, I also do a questions and answers session so people can put the hands up or they can, they get a chance to write a question and put it in this big bowl that I have.

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so it's quite an interactive.

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event at the second half and this young girl put her hand up and she said, how come my nan has now become a willy wag tail?

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and I started laughing and I said, your nan has not become a Willy Wag tail.

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What we do is we associate so your loved ones don't become butterflies.

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They don't become dragonflies.

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They don't become willy Wagtails.

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What I believe happens, and I've been shown this from Spirit, is.

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That when we think about our loved ones, we think about them and then we, we will see a Willy Wag tail.

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So then that connection is made.

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That and spirit are very, very clever.

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Obviously they've got super powers now, if you like, lot more powers than we had when we were down here incarnated into this life.

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And what happens is every time we.

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Think about them.

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We see this Willy Wagtail, and then it becomes reverse because then spirit think, okay, you know, she needs my help today.

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Right.

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Where's the Willy Wag tail?

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You know, and the bird will come in, and as the bird comes in, it means your loved ones is around, because that's when you think of your loved one.

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So your loved one hasn't become a, a bird.

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Your loved one is around when you see that bird.

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And that's how, like, you know, I could talk about manipulating music so that you,

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happen

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hear it on the radio?

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Yeah.

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people say to me, how is it just at the right time that that song comes on the radio?

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And I says, well, think about it.

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When we go to the spirit world, everything is omnipresent.

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And what I mean by that is there's no time, you know, everything is in the now.

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There's no future.

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There's no past.

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Everything is now.

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They haven't, the radio is going to happen anyway.

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They haven't manipulated time.

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Time is happening anyway, if that makes sense.

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Yeah.

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when you are in and that song was gonna come on anyway, it's like being aligned because there's no future time and there's no past time in their time.

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Yeah,

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does that make sense?

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about the feeling that resonates when they come close to us.

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Yeah,

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you know,

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that's right.

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positive

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Yeah.

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and a connection to them that we feel that resonance and it's all energy it's all vibration and frequency.

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And the other thing is, is you've got to, and this is what I tell my students all the time on my podcast listeners, when you hear or when you see that bird or you hear that music, use that sign.

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That's a really beautiful sign.

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Yeah.

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Think of what's going on in your life at that moment,

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Check

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know,

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Hmm.

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that's worring you and yet

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Yeah.

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Have you got an interview?

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have you got something to write?

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have you got something that's going on in your life because your spirits are trying to give you a little, hello, I'm with you.

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You've got this.

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Do you know what I mean?

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and we miss that so much

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so busy in

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and I think that's quite sad.

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quite often so busy thinking, and it's like, I love what you're suggesting there, Annemarie, just to stop what you're doing.

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As long as you're not driving and check in, and even just a general statement like, what do you want me to know right now?

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And then wait and listen to just see what thoughts come in.

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And, you know, I think

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Yeah,

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Spirit team are whispering to us all day long.

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Every day.

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They're always there, always loving us.

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absolutely.

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that we check in

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Yeah.

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And I think with teaching as you do as well, we are teaching people to create more opportunity for that.

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Deep, profound connection that comes from within that.

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So needed right now.

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Ev.

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That's right.

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And everyone wants stuff quickly.

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Everyone wants answers quickly.

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Now, you mentioned there very quickly, you said, as long as you're not driving.

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But even that, think if you are in the car and something comes on the radio.

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Where are you going?

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Yeah.

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you going to an interview?

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Are you starting a new job?

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Are you going on a date?

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Think of where you're going and what you're doing, because that just might be their way of saying, we've got you.

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we're

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And that's it.

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And

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Yeah.

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confirmation, isn't it?

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And just that support, that

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Yeah.

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which we can get with like-minded people when we connect with people that know who we are and an encouraging of what it is that we are doing, especially when we are venturing into the spirit realm, but also knowing that we've got a whole angelic team and spirit team that's here to encourage us and to help us to navigate life.

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And, and I find, the challenges is trusting in that innate knowing and trusting in the messages that we receive.

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And when we do that, life just gets

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Yeah.

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easier, doesn't it?

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Yeah.

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yeah,

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really,

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You know, life can be hard sometimes, but if you can have a way of knowing that and knowing you're not alone, Walking the path with somebody or some spirits, if you like, can be so much easier.

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Quite often

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Yeah.

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you know, go to see their loved ones at the graveyard and they'd be in the car with them on the way there.

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They used to show me that the, they'd get in the car with them and they'd drive to the cemetery and it'd be freezing.

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And then they'd sit in the cemetery with them and it'd be like, okay, you know, you're frozen off now let's get back in the car and let's go home.

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yeah,

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where ashes are or where, the remains are.

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Yeah, you can call your gu ides in anytime.

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In at any time, when you

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Yeah.

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when you first stepped into, mediumship.

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On a public platform, it can be quite nerve wracking for new fledgling mediums to get out there and start sharing their work.

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And I know I've certainly experienced the same with live channeling.

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'cause there is that element of trust.

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You have to trust spirit.

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You don't know what's, there's no script.

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You dunno what's gonna be said.

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And it takes a lot of courage Especially when we love what we wanna do and we really wanna do a good job and people are vulnerable with mediumship.

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So it is something that we train a long time, sometimes for many years before we take that first step on the stage to do platform mediumship.

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And I just wanted to know, what was it like for you when you first stepped onto the stage and started to give medium ship readings to a larger group?

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Anne-Marie.

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Absolutely terrifying.

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It's,

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I remember getting a chance, to work with another medium and, she taught me a lot actually.

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And when I went to work with this medium, I was absolutely terrified.

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And I think one of the biggest things is stepping into that power,

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Yeah.

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you know, stepping into that fear and that energy.

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And, you know, you talk about like, does it get any easier?

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No, it doesn't.

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it?

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single time.

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No.

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That's right.

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That's right.

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And every time I step into that or get onto that platform or onto that stage, um.

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Yeah, I'm still a, a, a lady who, um, I connected with in the UK called Hannah McIntyre.

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She's an amazing medium over in the uk.

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Yep.

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I actually done an interview on her podcast and she's been a guest on mine and she said, she sounds like Laie the Lamb.

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As soon as she gets up, she's like, hello.

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You know, and I thought, oh my God.

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So do I.

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So the first, when you, when you're introducing yourself, you know your lipstick to the top of your teeth and

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horrible.

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you know, but once it is horrible, it's terrible.

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But once you get into that, that

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the energy.

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or once you, yeah, I, it's like you've blended when, when you've done your meditation before the show, but you're still standing up and giving that introduction as you shall I say.

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mm

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not nearly knowing what's gonna happen, and then you say, okay, now I'm open.

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mm

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I feel.

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And then as soon as I open up to spirit, it fit in.

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Yeah.

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that laddy the lamb voice goes it.

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It's like, and you are on a float.

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Yeah, and I

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You just connecting and connecting and connecting.

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I don't know, I dunno if it's the same for you with mediumship, but it's slightly different for channeling.

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But I, I also feel that there's an energy that is created by the room as a whole.

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So I think as an energy, as a co, a

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Yeah.

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I think I found it easy to realize it's not just me here, and instead of focusing on myself and how I'm gonna look or what I'm gonna say, or what if I make mistakes or what if it doesn't resonate, I start thinking about.

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How can I be of service, not only with the help of spirit,

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Yeah,

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I help the people that are

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that's right.

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it becomes more about them,

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what it's all about.

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and making a difference.

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And I think, um, I think it's, it's reasonable to be nervous around something and, and it is, I

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Absolutely.

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of getting up in public speaking is one of the top two fears that people have.

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So I think we are really brave, Anne-Marie,

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Yeah.

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to challenge

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Imagine.

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to get up there and do it.

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Exactly with no script.

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You know, people who sing know what they're gonna sing.

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People who, who, that's right.

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They have a script.

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People who play

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Yeah.

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a script.

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We have no script.

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the reason we keep coming back and doing it time and time again, for me, the experience is unlike anything that I've ever done in my human experience.

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It is the feeling of joy that I feel when I'm blended with my spirit team

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Yeah.

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electrifying and I just feel so much,

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Mm-hmm.

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and, the information that comes through is profound and wise and I love it.

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I just, I remember the very

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Yeah.

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I saw Tony Stockwell trance channel demonstrate, and I was in the front row and felt that electrified energy, was life changing and I, you know how people have a near death experience and they kind of, at the end of that, they know that there is a spirit world.

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It becomes a knowing, not a question.

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I wonder

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Yeah, that's right.

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the same,

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Yeah.

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that,

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Yeah.

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in a different altered state.

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was

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Yeah.

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tune with his spirit guide.

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Like I could literally see his energy transfigure in front of me and feel the emotion of his

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That's amazing

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And

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see that.

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a hundred

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Yeah.

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in this conference

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Yeah,

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how to do that.

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It was from that

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yeah.

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I was like, I wanna do that.

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And

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I know.

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been

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Yeah.

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the journey of developing.

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'cause it doesn't take, it's not

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Yeah.

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can do easily.

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It takes time, but it's so worth it.

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It's so worth it.

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And I, I was listening to some of your podcast in preparation for this interview and there was two things that blew me away.

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I heard you talking about one of your friends that had AML so for those that dunno, acute myeloid leukemia, and she was in remission.

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And from what I know of that.

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Um, illness there, there's not many that actually, uh, make it'cause the stats are pretty low.

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My husband had AML when I was pregnant with our two ch with, my second child

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No.

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he's now 17 years in remission.

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Wow.

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and some of what she was saying

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My son.

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because he literally saw it as a gift and changed his whole life based on what he

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Yeah.

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when he went within, uh, when he had cancer and realized he was totally in the wrong

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Mm.

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a sales wrapping job and he was just out of alignment

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Yeah.

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and changed his whole career.

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And since then, he is never looked back and he doesn't say that I'm in remission.

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He says, I'm cancer free.

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17 years

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That's what she said.

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Yeah.

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I'm cancer free.

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Yeah,

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So, so all these

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She was amazing lady.

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She sounded it on the podcast.

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So if you haven't had a chance to listen, do you know the episode number Anne-Marie, or what her name is so

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Oh,

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find it?

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her name is, her name is Sir Linley.

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we'll

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she's

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mm.

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Sir Linley.

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She's just an amazing lady.

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I first was introduced to Siri.

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not personally.

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I seen a, talk at Tony Robbins event.

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She's one of Tony Robbins'.

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coaches and she teaches on his events, on his UPW events I messaged her when she was sick because she'd been such a big influence on my life, even though she didn't know it.

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And that's a thing that we do and to do in this, in the roles that we do.

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We don't even know the people that we touch half the time, and that's a big difference.

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And that's about always being true and standing up and authentically as you.

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But going back to Sadie, I contacted Sadie thinking I wouldn't get a reply, and I didn't wanna reply.

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I just wanted her to know that I was sending a healing through Reiki

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so beautiful.

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and she contacted me and, we've become friends ever since.

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So, yeah, she's,

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that pure intent.

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yeah.

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That's beautiful.

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Yeah, she's such an amazing lady.

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She really is.

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And I'm so proud of the beautiful, amazing person that she is.

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Um, and yeah, she does, uh, she, through her illness, she actually went on to rescue horses who were ready for slaughter and yeah.

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And she's got this, um.

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She's got this, uh, a big company now, believe Ranch and Rescue, where she rescues horses and she's, oh my God, she's just beautiful.

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She's amazing lady.

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Her and her wife be,

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oh wow,

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yeah,

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I did some work a while ago with Reiki healing and horses, and their heart feels profound.

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Like they were literally, remember laying

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Yeah.

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table down in the paddock and there was four horses and there was a lady that was kind of translating what the horses were doing and, and I'm literally like, there was this big horse called Zeus, and I'm like.

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want Zeus, I don't want the big horse.

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Zeus.

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I wanted the little po.

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There was like a, the, I dunno, the female horses called mares.

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There was this sweet

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Yeah.

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and she didn't want anything to do with me.

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This big boof Zeus came right up to me.

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It was nudging me and I'm like, get away.

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And it was so interesting.

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So I laid down on the massage table.

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And then she said to me, he came over me and literally waved his head right from the bottom of my feet over my head.

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And you know, to me, I always grew up loving horses.

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Like I've just loved

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Yeah.

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magnificent animal.

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And I always love the arch of a horse.

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They just remind me of such

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Yeah,

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And I was laying

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yeah.

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looking up under the arch of this horse's neck, just the most beautiful part of a horse.

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Yeah.

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He was a test tube horse meant to, they had big ambitions for him to be a racehorse, and he failed all of their expectations, and so he was rejected.

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And the minute she said that, I just started sobbing because

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yeah.

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Rejection that I'd felt that I hadn't processed.

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Yeah.

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little mare started nibbling my feet to make me come out of it.

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And we all started laughing because like

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Oh.

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the horses just ground us and bring us back to like, I was like, okay, you got

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Beautiful horses.

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ah, it

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Yeah.

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They're beautiful.

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so special animals.

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So you've developed your own, method through the three grateful, grateful three approach to life.

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Yep.

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what inspired this and how has gratitude,'cause I know that's a theme that threads throughout the book.

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How has gratitude changed the way you live and work with Spirit?

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Anne Marie?

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I believe gratitude can change anything.

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Gratitude can change anybody's life.

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Hmm.

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for me, when I started seeing, What I had in life rather than what I didn't have.

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Then life became changeable,

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Yeah.

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a lot of the time we go through life saying, we haven't got this, we haven't got that, and it's so easy for us all to do that.

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I find myself still falling into that path,

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Yep.

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but having the grateful three approach to life tools, as I call them, is your bag of not staying there.

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So when you, when you start, oh, I haven't got this, or life's become a bit too heavy, or life's a bit shit at the moment, whatever it is, then.

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Then you stop and you put your hands on your heart and you just give thanks for three things.

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that's when life begins to change, because throughout that day there's, you know, it is science as well because, you know, I am a nurse.

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We will bring science in.

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When we give gratitude for three things in our lives.

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What we are doing is we are programming the RAS system, the reticular activating system.

00:26:23.759 --> 00:26:29.279
So what happens there is you start seeing more of what you've just programmed.

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The RAS system hasn't got sort of wrong.

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If you haven't heard of it, look it up.

00:26:34.769 --> 00:26:39.539
It's a, it's a, um, it's a system within the brain that.

00:26:39.944 --> 00:26:45.884
Looks at what we are emotionally thinking and helps us see more.

00:26:46.214 --> 00:26:53.924
So if you are emotionally thinking negative things, the RIS system will make you see more of what is negative.

00:26:54.194 --> 00:27:04.095
If you are, given gratitude or seeing positive things throughout your day, your RAS system flicks on and sees more of what is good in your life.

00:27:04.275 --> 00:27:08.565
So for me, this was like a light bulb moment I was thinking.

00:27:09.285 --> 00:27:13.125
We all work with this RAS system and don't know we've got it.

00:27:13.335 --> 00:27:15.585
What an amazing tool to have.

00:27:15.944 --> 00:27:24.884
So we can then script, we can change the pattern of our lives going forward by gratitude.

00:27:24.884 --> 00:27:27.045
You know, I didn't bring this in.

00:27:27.224 --> 00:27:28.305
If you look at, um, Buddhism,

00:27:29.384 --> 00:27:29.444
the

00:27:29.638 --> 00:27:30.239
gratitude.

00:27:30.255 --> 00:27:30.474
Yeah.

00:27:30.759 --> 00:27:32.740
It's the antidote for anger and worry.

00:27:33.009 --> 00:27:33.404
Right, that's right.

00:27:34.244 --> 00:27:43.269
Or if even in, um, you know, if you're religious, if you've got being brought so Catholic, like I was, everything is about giving thanks.

00:27:43.599 --> 00:27:44.319
Do you know what I mean?

00:27:44.319 --> 00:27:45.339
This isn't new.

00:27:45.400 --> 00:27:48.009
Everything is about being grateful.

00:27:48.309 --> 00:27:50.769
So I thought, simple.

00:27:50.980 --> 00:27:51.880
What can we do?

00:27:52.119 --> 00:27:53.410
Put your hands on your horse.

00:27:54.295 --> 00:28:00.714
Take a deep breath in and give thanks for three things, but do it every morning before you even open your eyes.

00:28:00.894 --> 00:28:03.115
'cause you're still a little bit in that thesis zone.

00:28:03.565 --> 00:28:07.474
And then what I found is I'm brushing my teeth going, Hey, I've got teeth.

00:28:07.694 --> 00:28:09.315
I've got legs to get me out the bed.

00:28:09.315 --> 00:28:11.744
And things that we take for granted.

00:28:11.759 --> 00:28:11.849
the

00:28:11.900 --> 00:28:13.069
Hot watered in it.

00:28:13.190 --> 00:28:13.789
There you go.

00:28:13.869 --> 00:28:14.529
Or a beautiful

00:28:14.694 --> 00:28:15.234
Yeah.

00:28:15.285 --> 00:28:15.765
Yeah.

00:28:16.628 --> 00:28:17.048
That's right.

00:28:17.229 --> 00:28:30.909
But I, I wanna tell you something really quickly and very simply have your listeners, so have you as well, Lisa, have you ever thought that you're gonna buy a new car or you want a new car and you're thinking about this new car?

00:28:30.969 --> 00:28:32.588
I always call it the Red Range Rover.

00:28:32.949 --> 00:28:39.189
So you think about this new car and then the next day you get on the road and everywhere you look, there's Red Range Rovers.

00:28:39.878 --> 00:28:40.548
definitely.

00:28:42.558 --> 00:28:48.348
Range Rover now that Orange Range Rover could look red in a bit of a light.

00:28:48.618 --> 00:28:51.648
So was them cars on the road the day before?

00:28:51.679 --> 00:28:52.548
Absolutely.

00:28:52.729 --> 00:28:55.098
You hadn't switched this on to c.

00:28:55.713 --> 00:28:56.344
Mm.

00:28:56.433 --> 00:29:02.884
So then if you decide to do this with gratitude, then you will see things to be grateful for.

00:29:02.884 --> 00:29:05.554
But then you'll leave and see Orange Range Rovers.

00:29:05.733 --> 00:29:13.953
So you might even say, well, being grateful for that yesterday, but you know, today, I could suppose I could be grateful for it.

00:29:14.403 --> 00:29:15.693
Do you get what I'm saying?

00:29:15.723 --> 00:29:16.804
It's, it's about

00:29:17.058 --> 00:29:17.179
It

00:29:17.374 --> 00:29:18.784
how the RIS.

00:29:20.104 --> 00:29:20.854
Massively.

00:29:21.243 --> 00:29:26.433
And why not use it to enhance your life rather than to make your life

00:29:26.644 --> 00:29:26.973
I

00:29:27.364 --> 00:29:28.023
or sad.

00:29:28.534 --> 00:29:34.413
I often say that as a hypnotherapist, when we get the mind to work for us instead of against

00:29:34.594 --> 00:29:35.223
absolutely.

00:29:35.374 --> 00:29:35.913
change in our

00:29:36.183 --> 00:29:36.453
Yeah,

00:29:36.453 --> 00:29:37.443
rapidly as well.

00:29:37.443 --> 00:29:39.003
And that's, yeah, I think really

00:29:39.423 --> 00:29:40.263
very quickly.

00:29:40.294 --> 00:29:40.983
there's one thing

00:29:41.134 --> 00:29:41.403
Yeah.

00:29:42.064 --> 00:29:48.183
helped me with, there was a bit of an issue I was struggling with on our last conversation and you said, oh, go back to my book and go to the.

00:29:48.969 --> 00:29:50.108
Effort buckets.

00:29:50.679 --> 00:29:51.308
I won't swear

00:29:51.423 --> 00:29:52.263
Yeah.

00:29:52.354 --> 00:29:53.344
buckets.

00:29:53.367 --> 00:29:53.637
right.

00:29:53.688 --> 00:30:02.448
again, these are simple tools that we often have learn before, but we forget and it's just, I sat there with this particular problem I had.

00:30:02.657 --> 00:30:06.228
I literally got out post-it notes and I'm like, this one goes and this.

00:30:06.238 --> 00:30:06.718
Bucket.

00:30:06.718 --> 00:30:11.367
This one goes in that bucket, and it literally just shifted my state.

00:30:11.367 --> 00:30:18.928
And that sometimes we can get on a loop in our mind over fear of what others think of us when we really have no control.

00:30:18.928 --> 00:30:22.557
It's none of our business what anyone thinks of us yet as humans,

00:30:22.617 --> 00:30:22.857
shows.

00:30:22.938 --> 00:30:23.508
we care.

00:30:23.778 --> 00:30:24.857
It's important to us.

00:30:24.857 --> 00:30:25.157
We want

00:30:25.217 --> 00:30:25.507
yeah.

00:30:25.548 --> 00:30:27.317
to like us.

00:30:27.317 --> 00:30:29.928
It feels good when they do so for.

00:30:30.218 --> 00:30:35.468
Our listeners, can you just, recap what the buckets are and give a great example of how someone can

00:30:35.491 --> 00:30:39.811
Yeah, so the buckets for me are.

00:30:40.352 --> 00:30:42.602
Everything about my, my book is common sense.

00:30:42.602 --> 00:30:44.882
It's quick, it's simple and it's common sense.

00:30:45.211 --> 00:30:45.541
Yeah.

00:30:45.842 --> 00:30:48.182
Now, the book for me was about confidence.

00:30:48.182 --> 00:30:59.892
You know, if you, if you are thinking of starting your own business, say for instance, and then you think of going forward and you think, okay, what will people say?

00:31:00.432 --> 00:31:01.751
What will people think?

00:31:01.843 --> 00:31:02.143
outta the

00:31:02.201 --> 00:31:03.491
What will people do?

00:31:03.972 --> 00:31:04.542
Yeah.

00:31:04.977 --> 00:31:05.247
Yeah.

00:31:05.397 --> 00:31:05.688
Yeah.

00:31:05.817 --> 00:31:15.817
for instance, like me, like being a nurse and then stepping forward into telling everyone I was a medium, what will people, now the key, the key question here is people.

00:31:16.133 --> 00:31:17.123
Yes.

00:31:17.123 --> 00:31:21.593
so what I want you to think about is people who are these people?

00:31:21.863 --> 00:31:30.522
So a lot of the time we think about people as the people on Facebook or some maybe friend that you haven't seen for 40 odd years who you went to school with.

00:31:30.732 --> 00:31:31.932
Well, she might judge me.

00:31:32.377 --> 00:31:35.288
Really, so stay with me for a moment here.

00:31:35.288 --> 00:31:36.847
So we have these buckets.

00:31:36.978 --> 00:31:41.798
to the left of the buckets, we have, people who we don't know and they don't know us.

00:31:41.867 --> 00:31:45.587
say people that you haven't interacted with, people on Facebook, that kind of thing.

00:31:46.067 --> 00:31:49.518
And then to the right of the buckets, you're gonna have people who don't like you.

00:31:50.117 --> 00:31:52.428
And we don't really like them if we got to know them.

00:31:52.698 --> 00:31:53.057
Yeah.

00:31:53.268 --> 00:31:55.428
So, and it's okay to say that, okay.

00:31:55.428 --> 00:31:58.008
Spiritual people have people that don't like them.

00:31:58.107 --> 00:31:58.377
Yep.

00:31:59.082 --> 00:31:59.741
That's nice.

00:32:00.071 --> 00:32:04.842
And then in the front Booker here, we've got the people who love us and who care about us.

00:32:04.902 --> 00:32:13.932
So you are ready to start this beautiful, new venture within your life and you are letting the people stop you.

00:32:14.231 --> 00:32:18.011
I want you to think, which would you put the people.

00:32:18.386 --> 00:32:36.207
In because my friend, when you think of this beautiful journey and this beautiful new adventure that could change your life, your kids' lives, your family's lives, your home where you live, but you are letting their people stop you.

00:32:37.106 --> 00:32:46.196
The people that you mightn't have even seen in a hundred years or whatever, you know the people that don't like you, so they're not gonna like you anyway.

00:32:46.977 --> 00:32:54.777
But then I wanna take you to the front because then we say, okay, so say it's going to be me, mum that says, oh love.

00:32:54.777 --> 00:32:56.277
I don't think you should do that.

00:32:56.277 --> 00:32:58.916
Or, you know, maybe that's not the right thing.

00:32:58.916 --> 00:33:01.346
Or me, husband or someone like that.

00:33:01.467 --> 00:33:04.557
There's only two reasons that people will say that.

00:33:04.557 --> 00:33:11.396
The people who love you, and one of them is their own limit and beliefs, so they wouldn't be able to do it.

00:33:11.801 --> 00:33:14.051
Through fear or their own limit and beliefs.

00:33:14.291 --> 00:33:18.612
And the second is through their fear of love for you.

00:33:18.761 --> 00:33:20.771
They do not wanna see you fail,

00:33:20.907 --> 00:33:21.357
Yeah.

00:33:21.731 --> 00:33:23.531
so they keep you safe.

00:33:23.781 --> 00:33:24.021
keep

00:33:24.037 --> 00:33:25.957
when you wanna go on a journey,

00:33:26.092 --> 00:33:26.571
Mm.

00:33:26.707 --> 00:33:27.217
say that again.

00:33:27.261 --> 00:33:27.412
Yeah.

00:33:27.461 --> 00:33:30.491
you end up playing small to please them, and you

00:33:30.622 --> 00:33:31.011
You do.

00:33:31.192 --> 00:33:31.612
Yeah.

00:33:31.791 --> 00:33:40.761
Yeah, but small keeps you small, keeps you never achieving your goals or your dreams, never getting your family what they wanna do.

00:33:41.031 --> 00:33:41.392
Never.

00:33:41.511 --> 00:33:46.251
You know, when I, I said to people I was coming to live in Australia, a place I'd never been before.

00:33:46.491 --> 00:33:48.376
I didn't even know where I was going.

00:33:48.751 --> 00:33:53.342
Um, I had a dream when I was about, oh God, I must have been about 14,

00:33:53.491 --> 00:33:54.211
Wow.

00:33:54.481 --> 00:33:56.791
never been to Australia at all.

00:33:56.912 --> 00:34:03.541
And I packed up, me, me husbands, me, three kids, and sold me house, gave our jobs up and landed in Australia.

00:34:03.541 --> 00:34:04.622
Was like, whoa.

00:34:04.622 --> 00:34:05.402
family had a few

00:34:05.432 --> 00:34:05.971
But the,

00:34:05.971 --> 00:34:06.902
about that then.

00:34:07.651 --> 00:34:08.760
everybody did.

00:34:08.820 --> 00:34:10.021
Everybody did.

00:34:10.021 --> 00:34:11.280
You know, are you nuts?

00:34:11.550 --> 00:34:11.880
You know?

00:34:12.001 --> 00:34:17.251
But if I were to listen to them and I would've let them stop me, I.

00:34:17.610 --> 00:34:19.260
My life would've been so different.

00:34:19.981 --> 00:34:21.615
So don't let anyone stop you.

00:34:21.795 --> 00:34:22.655
Put them in a book.

00:34:22.726 --> 00:34:23.777
Yeah, I love it.

00:34:23.876 --> 00:34:24.777
Put them in a book.

00:34:24.827 --> 00:34:31.427
simple but powerful and life transformational, experience that we can do and it does give you power back.

00:34:31.427 --> 00:34:33.376
And like I said, I tried it recently

00:34:33.407 --> 00:34:33.686
Absolutely.

00:34:33.887 --> 00:34:35.086
it does make a difference.

00:34:35.086 --> 00:34:43.007
And it's amazing how when we get into it, you know, I think no matter when we are going through growth phases, sometimes there's changes we're going through in business.

00:34:43.007 --> 00:34:44.177
It never stops, no matter

00:34:44.356 --> 00:34:44.806
Yeah.

00:34:44.836 --> 00:34:45.407
years in this

00:34:45.496 --> 00:34:45.947
No,

00:34:46.036 --> 00:34:46.876
a spiritual teacher.

00:34:46.876 --> 00:34:48.737
And I'm still learning, like there's always.

00:34:48.931 --> 00:34:49.132
right.

00:34:49.217 --> 00:34:50.297
Yeah, we're always humble

00:34:50.306 --> 00:34:50.597
Yeah.

00:34:50.902 --> 00:34:51.052
we,

00:34:51.072 --> 00:34:51.362
Yeah.

00:34:51.458 --> 00:34:58.987
Or the more I know, the less I know is kind of one of my favorite sayings'cause it just keeps us in that, you know, always in that learning frame.

00:34:59.347 --> 00:34:59.637
Yeah.

00:34:59.664 --> 00:35:04.583
for people to know, even when we've achieved great things ourself, Ann Marie, and written books like we both have,

00:35:04.762 --> 00:35:04.853
Yeah.

00:35:04.943 --> 00:35:06.204
you know, we still

00:35:06.228 --> 00:35:06.518
Yeah,

00:35:07.099 --> 00:35:10.909
We still have ups and downs in health crisis and, you know, all kinds of things.

00:35:10.909 --> 00:35:15.099
'cause there's the human beneath the spiritual teacher that, you know, that we struggle

00:35:15.222 --> 00:35:15.702
Yeah.

00:35:16.298 --> 00:35:16.748
And that can

00:35:16.782 --> 00:35:17.233
Yeah,

00:35:17.318 --> 00:35:18.219
be helpful to know,

00:35:18.429 --> 00:35:19.208
Definitely.

00:35:19.389 --> 00:35:31.028
What's the challenge that you've overcome that you feel would be really helpful for people either just beginning to learn or beginning to step out into mediumship or as Reiki healers beginning to build their practice?

00:35:31.088 --> 00:35:41.679
Is there anything that you wish you knew when you started that you now have learned through the years of your experience that would just make that journey easier to

00:35:42.193 --> 00:35:43.663
Yeah, absolutely.

00:35:43.663 --> 00:35:45.702
Stand in your own authenticity.

00:35:46.202 --> 00:35:48.242
you are not somebody else.

00:35:48.543 --> 00:35:49.922
You are you.

00:35:50.193 --> 00:35:54.393
You bring everything you are to your practice.

00:35:54.632 --> 00:35:55.878
You are never gonna be.

00:35:56.773 --> 00:35:59.443
Mary down the road because Mary's Mary.

00:35:59.503 --> 00:36:02.322
So people will go to Mary who, like Mary,

00:36:02.699 --> 00:36:02.989
Yeah.

00:36:03.012 --> 00:36:03.523
know what I mean?

00:36:03.523 --> 00:36:07.032
But people will come to you who resonate with you.

00:36:07.333 --> 00:36:09.463
You stand in your authenticity.

00:36:09.643 --> 00:36:17.492
The more we focus on what other people are doing or what, other people where they are in their practice or in their life, destroys.

00:36:17.873 --> 00:36:21.382
The energy and the, the self.

00:36:21.563 --> 00:36:22.132
Yeah.

00:36:22.313 --> 00:36:24.172
What you need to give back to you.

00:36:24.503 --> 00:36:32.722
The, the more energy you spend looking at other people is the less energy you spend helping you grow.

00:36:32.722 --> 00:36:33.112
You.

00:36:33.353 --> 00:36:35.092
So my one thing I would say.

00:36:36.277 --> 00:36:40.088
To everybody stand within your own authenticity.

00:36:40.327 --> 00:36:42.577
Do not worry or care.

00:36:42.577 --> 00:36:50.677
And that's one of the things I've found within this spiritual industry is, not everybody, but a lot of people focus on what other people are doing.

00:36:50.889 --> 00:36:51.938
The comparison.

00:36:51.969 --> 00:36:53.409
focus on what other people

00:36:53.588 --> 00:36:54.518
Even in classrooms.

00:36:54.518 --> 00:36:56.048
I see people compare themself

00:36:56.483 --> 00:36:56.773
yeah,

00:36:56.829 --> 00:36:57.309
I'm like, yeah,

00:36:57.603 --> 00:36:57.893
yeah.

00:36:57.969 --> 00:37:01.298
may have come with a lot of other training into this channeling course.

00:37:01.298 --> 00:37:09.009
They may have come with years of development in a circle, which is why it may be easier for them to channel and you are just beginning.

00:37:09.009 --> 00:37:11.739
So it, it's, it's, it's interesting how many

00:37:11.903 --> 00:37:12.923
But it doesn't matter.

00:37:13.088 --> 00:37:13.478
ourselves.

00:37:13.478 --> 00:37:14.829
It doesn't, and I

00:37:15.143 --> 00:37:16.614
Yeah, it doesn't matter.

00:37:17.164 --> 00:37:18.003
I think you're right.

00:37:18.003 --> 00:37:20.853
The more that we can focus on who we are and how we deliver

00:37:21.423 --> 00:37:22.054
Yeah.

00:37:22.443 --> 00:37:24.094
self and know

00:37:24.333 --> 00:37:24.844
Yeah.

00:37:24.884 --> 00:37:26.954
abundant world, there's enough for everybody.

00:37:27.003 --> 00:37:28.204
Absolutely.

00:37:28.909 --> 00:37:29.898
and yet it's something that

00:37:30.003 --> 00:37:30.634
Yeah.

00:37:30.679 --> 00:37:31.759
and time for people.

00:37:31.789 --> 00:37:35.318
you know what I always think about is if you've got a wound on your arm

00:37:35.425 --> 00:37:35.784
yep.

00:37:35.978 --> 00:37:46.478
or you are trying to heal this and grow this skin back over and this wound, you wouldn't look at somebody else and say, I'm gonna fix your wound.

00:37:46.989 --> 00:37:47.210
No.

00:37:47.648 --> 00:37:48.789
Why would you do that?

00:37:48.809 --> 00:37:49.030
No,

00:37:49.208 --> 00:37:52.208
I'll help you grow the skin by hover onto your wounds.

00:37:52.509 --> 00:37:54.248
One, it's impossible,

00:37:55.014 --> 00:37:55.074
Yeah.

00:37:56.048 --> 00:37:59.259
and two, it's a waste of energy.

00:37:59.369 --> 00:38:00.170
disempowering

00:38:00.188 --> 00:38:01.358
to bring it back.

00:38:02.559 --> 00:38:04.659
Absolutely, absolutely.

00:38:04.688 --> 00:38:10.509
If you try and step in and do that for someone, but majority of the time we don't do that.

00:38:10.688 --> 00:38:14.798
We just watch from afar and let what other people are doing.

00:38:14.798 --> 00:38:18.759
If you are focusing on other people, it destroys your confidence.

00:38:19.253 --> 00:38:24.833
It's like Facebook, Instagram, you know, don't stand in authenticity.

00:38:25.014 --> 00:38:31.793
Nobody else on this planet is you or comes to your business with what you've got to offer.

00:38:32.003 --> 00:38:34.224
So my friend, focus on you.

00:38:34.434 --> 00:38:40.884
Focus on you, and watch how your business and your spiritual growth will change.

00:38:41.260 --> 00:38:48.159
Beautiful words of wisdom, Anne Marie and I can really feel that that will resonate with so many people.

00:38:48.159 --> 00:38:55.929
And I think it's great to be able to, condense it down into simple and easy to follow, ideas and instructions.

00:38:55.980 --> 00:39:00.079
is there anything else that you haven't shared that you would like to, Marie.

00:39:03.068 --> 00:39:08.679
I could actually talk forever, so you might have to narrow me down a little bit there.

00:39:08.739 --> 00:39:10.820
have to leave it for now and we can always

00:39:10.893 --> 00:39:11.184
Yeah.

00:39:11.539 --> 00:39:12.769
for another chat.

00:39:12.820 --> 00:39:13.110
Yeah.

00:39:13.324 --> 00:39:14.224
we've certainly covered a

00:39:14.429 --> 00:39:14.719
What?

00:39:15.005 --> 00:39:17.315
spirit mediumship teaching.

00:39:17.364 --> 00:39:17.655
Yeah.

00:39:17.670 --> 00:39:19.590
I've enjoyed this conversation very much.

00:39:19.681 --> 00:39:23.371
And for those of you that would like to, Know more about Anne-Marie.

00:39:23.371 --> 00:39:31.610
You can grab her book and I'll put all the links in the show notes below, and you still take one-on-one clients for readings.

00:39:32.030 --> 00:39:32.570
Anne-Marie.

00:39:33.204 --> 00:39:38.005
Yeah, now I'm booked up till December, so this year is nearly full.

00:39:38.284 --> 00:39:43.085
however, if you do book in, you can always go on the internal cancellation list.

00:39:43.085 --> 00:39:44.525
I don't have an external one.

00:39:44.641 --> 00:39:44.911
Yep.

00:39:44.945 --> 00:39:49.565
these are all for people who are already booked in, but you can always come and see me at one of the live events.

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and also, listen to my podcast, motivational Medium, and I would love you to read the book or come to my wanna.

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One, um, come to one of my, workshops, which would be great.

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So thank you.

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and always lovely to see you again.

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All right, so that's it for today.

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Until next time, trust yourself, trust spirit, and keep your heart wide open.